Posted on: November 22, 2020 Posted by: Soreh Milchtein Comments: 47
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They might be the coldest people, but they aren’t as cold as Wisconsin, USA. And trust me, I know cold. I grew up in WI, born in December to Russian Jewish immigrants. Arguably, WI is the coldest place in the continental US. I really do know cold. Listen, before you start reading this, you should know, that I actually do love the Netherlands. Check out my blog posts about how much I love the Netherlands. This is my humorous take on the few things that do get under my skin. All in good fun. I mean, would you want to be here if you’re expected to start working before the sun’s come up? Like what in the world? It’s a culture I’m still learning to understand. I have embraced some things about it like riding a bike, but other things, I’ll never wrap my head around. Who wants to eat sandwiches twice a day for the rest of your life?

1. Very Hard to Find Variety

I feel like it’s sometimes impossible to find fresh ingredients in the supermarket. Like in order to get good dill, I need to go to the farmers market. The one in the supermarket is already chopped up and super gross. Trying to find more than 3 varieties of potatoes? You’re going to have to search really far. Many times, I just have to settle instead of enjoy things that I like. In order to find variety like certain spices or dill pickles, you must go to specialized stores. It’s great for small businesses but annoying for me. I’m used to finding everything at the supermarket.

2. Dutch People Are Some of the Coldest M-F**Kers Out There

I have yet to meet a Dutch person who wants to be my friend. They always say that they would love to meet up, I give them my number and then they never call. I thought the whole click thing when you don’t want new friends were left in high school. Apparently not. I have met a few warm Dutch people. They will help you if you need help. My neighbors can be quite helpful when I need assistance with schlepping something. But I never see them showing any kind of emotion. I can’t exactly describe what being warm is like. If you know what I mean, you get it. The Dutch are certainly not warm people. Perhaps it’s not so much them being cold but my being one of those, you know, Americans.

3. Working Times

My boyfriend starts work at or before 8:00 am. Most people in his office start way before he does. I get you want to beat the morning traffic, but is it worth waking before daylight and going to sleep when babies go to bed? Hmm, I don’t think so.

I woke up to sunrise and my boyfriend was already at work.

4. Sandwiches?!

What is it with the Dutch’s obsession with bread? It’s delicious, I know, but can we get a decent breakfast or lunch once in a while? Don’t they ever get bored of their sandwiches? I sometimes eat sandwiches when I want something quick. A lot of days, I eat eggs, oatmeal, or even a bowl of cereal and milk. So nice to switch it up once in a while.

A proper eggy breakfast.

5. Doctors Who Seem to Have Never Gone to Medical School

I know the Dutch system is one of the best. But, of course, I’m the one who had a bad experience. It’s kinda hard to bounce back from a wrongly diagnosed broken foot that led to more than a year in pain. I wrote a whole blog post about that too. The doctors here do not know how to be a doctor. They always send you away saying you’ll be fine and that you should take paracetamol, like what the hell? Is it a cure-all? And when they do give you a medication, they don’t even explain how to use it for how long. My doctor always tells me “Soreh, we aren’t in America, we don’t test everyone because it’s costly. Like wtf. No shit we aren’t in America, but can I get a proper diagnosis? Do they even have a heart? Did they even go to medical school? I guess in a way it’s a good way of practicing medicine because there aren’t a huge number of opioid addicts.

6. The Dutch Are Very Punctual

Someone invites you for dinner at 6:00 pm, expect to be there at 5:55 pm. Does the party start at 9:00 pm? If you’re not there by 9:00 pm sharp, you’re late. I’m all for punctuality when it comes to work or appointments, but social gatherings? There’s no harm in showing up a bit late. What’s another 15 or 20 minutes? Stereotypically, Jews don’t own a watch. So being on time isn’t exactly easy for us.

Always gotta be checking my watch.

7. No Hugs, Kisses or Even Shaking Hands

It took me a long time to unlearn my Hasidic education around not showing affection in public. Once I finally unlearned it, I ended up in the Netherlands. Dutch people don’t even kiss or hold hands in public if they are a couple. The only PDA they show is on formal occasions like Christmas, they greet each other with 3 kisses. I guess they got to make up for all that PDA they missed throughout the year.

8. Speaking English to You When You’re Trying to Speak Dutch

Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate the hell out of Dutch people. They actually learn English, unlike the stubborn French people. But if I’m trying to learn Dutch and actually speak to you in Dutch, can you work with me? Then they go and ask, “how’s your Dutch going?” Horrid because you answered me in English. Makes my life easier right now but in the long run, it’s only making it harder for me to learn Dutch.

9. What’s Cooking?

I blame this one on my Hasidic mother too. She made everything from scratch, from soup to bread. How can it be that the Netherlands is so close to so many countries with good food, like France, and Dutch people do not know how to cook well? I’m very sorry but taking frozen snacks and frying them isn’t cooking. Taking soup and meat out of a can and heating them up isn’t cooking. Not to mention, all the food is hella bland. Have you ever heard of spices? I thought they were known for the East India (Spices) Company. Fried snacks like bitterballen are delicious but they aren’t a proper meal. The Dutch people value time with family instead of slaving away in the kitchen.

Canned what soup? Hell no. Made 100% from scratch.

10. Sugar in Everything

Sugar, sugar, sugar. Every salad and prepared food you can find has sugar. What is the obsession with sugar? Doctors in America have drummed into me the horrors of sugar. Not that it really got to me, but at least I attempted to cut back. Kinda impossible here. Who puts sugar in a deviled eggs or tuna salad? They are ruining my favorite foods with their sugar fixation. They even eat buttered bread with sprinkles, it’s called hagelslag. It’s just not my cup of tea.

I make my own deviled eggs, without sugar.

11. The Yelling

I grew up in a home where people were always yelling so I intentionally took myself out of such situations. The Dutch are always yelling at each other. They think it’s a normal tone of voice, but it’s really not guys. If you have to talk over each other, then you’re yelling. I learned in kindergarten how to use my indoor voice. That yelling tone of voice actually hurts people’s feelings. Foreigners aren’t used to be yelled at about everything.

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    1. Hey listen, I totally get it. I’m not patriotic. This is my take on a country that I’ve grown to love. Feel free to read all my other posts about how much I love it here. Come on, you gotta understand that outsiders can have some negative views.

    2. Wow people, you need to calm down. The first paragraph reads that she loves it here. The post is well written and it’s about one person’s experience.

      Sorry, great work. I’ll be reading more by you.

    3. I recognize all of what you are saying. I have never lived anywhere it is soooo hard to make friends. I have some great acquaintances with whom i go out to dinner, etc (when it was possible that is) but finding a “bosom buddy” seems impossible. And i also agree with you about the “broodjescultuur” as i call it; eating sandwiches twice a day and most cafes offering the exact same menu for lunch:-)
      But i don’t quite get the “early to work” phenomenon. When i was working (because i am in tourism and that has evaporated 100% at the moment) snd i had to be in a certain location, in the beginning i would follow my NY method: get there and go have breakfast somewhere near there! But alas, had to give that up, because no self respecting Dutch cafe opens up before 8 am at earliest, and that would be way too late for me, as my assignments would mostly start at that time! So now i have breakfast at home. But yes, i do miss the occasional wonderful, sinfully delicious, cholesterol filled US breakfasts, like eggs sunnyside with bacon and homefries.,, Now can’t even get to NY to have one..

  1. WOW, A LOT OF NEGATIVITY HERE 🙁 WHY DO YOU LIVE IN THE NETHERLANDS? YOU THINK THE AMERICANS ARE BETTER? THATS WHY I DONT ACCEPT THIS IN MY GROUP I LOVE THE NETHERLANDS.

    1. it is very foolish to surround yourself with people with the same morals and attitudes. don’t you think you are putting yourself in a box?

  2. Love the way you say the Dutch don’t cook, while other Americans write they finely learn to cook everyday their own meal instead of getting fastfood or instant meals.
    But I am sorry to see you had a hard time to get any friends, think you really met the wrong people.
    Wish you well!

    1. Of course, I have a much different experience than most Americans. I was lucky enough to grow up in a household where everything was cooked from scratch. I was making Jewish braided bread (challah) from scratch when I was just a child. Thankfully I have a great group of friends, all of them internationals. If you have any insight as to how to make friends with Dutch people, I’m all ears.

      1. You should make an effort to learn Dutch in order to socialize with more Dutch people if that’s your desire. Otherwise, every social interaction they have also has to account for being in English with you too and that’s difficult over a long enough period of time. Also, when corona blows over, go to expat events at cafes to practice Dutch where some of them have some internationally-minded Dutch locals. Some are running online programs that you could look into for now.

        I don’t speak Dutch very well yet either, but my Dutch friends all say they appreciate my effort to learn the language. I am a Master’s student, so it’s been a bit more organic for me to meet others at school. I understand even before corona it was hard to meet people and with corona, it seems impossible.

        However, we moved here to their country, so it’s not up to them to always accommodate us. We have to make the effort to accommodate ourselves.

        Your opinions will be those of you who you surround yourself with. It’s okay to only hang out with expats, but your end goal is to meet some Dutch friends, then you really should be trying to know the language and become more local.

  3. I’m from the UK and have been living in East Holland for 2 years now, and wow has it been such a culture change. I completely understand you mean no personal attack in this article, I can talk all day to my English family and friends over all the things I love about Holland, but I also love to discuss the cultural differences that sometimes make me go crazy and I will outright just never get use to. I enjoyed reading this, from someone in a similar boat…thankyou! Ps. I read an article not long ago about how Holland was rated the worse country for expats to make friends

  4. I love this. There’s a lot of negative on these comments but I see these points as a love letter to the Netherlands – maybe cos I’m English.
    I have lived here for almost 8 years with my Dutch wife and I would much rather live here than England but the points are still valid. Coming from London where you are good friends with your work colleagues and go drinking with them and know everything about them – this is just not the case here and it is something I really struggle with.
    I put the coldness down to just not taking any bullsh*t and just saying it as it is. Its a shock but you appreciate it better.

    For the working time is more prevalent at lunch and the end of the day – want a meeting at 12.01 – forget it! 5pm its like a stampede.

    1. “The coldness down to just not taking any bull***t and just saying it as it is” (?). I’m curious: so if a non Dutch person meets a person from the Netherlands who after either a short or longer time is regarded as displaying “coldness” even though the foreigner has shown warmth and is a good listener, that would be interpreted as the rejection of “bull***t” because it’s a Dutch person “just saying it as it is”?

  5. I am sorry that you have such a negative mindset. Honestly you won’t really enjoy living anywhere if you need to complain in such a petty way about things that do not matter that much. I am a foreigner like you (neither Dutch nor American), and I really believe you need to stop generalizing people and indulging yourself with your negative imagination. No one likes a complainer, foreigner or not!

    1. I do love the Netherlands. It doesn’t mean I’m blind to its flaws. I have posted many things I like about the Netherlands in this blog post and in others. Be sure to check out my other blog posts.

  6. 5. Doctors Who Seem to Have Never Went to Medical School
    Please correct this.
    Doctor Who Seem to Have Never Been to Medical School’ or ‘to Have Never Gone’

  7. I’ve been living here for four years now, and I agree with everything you’ve mentioned. I also think you’ve actually been kind in the way you chalk things up to differences in priorities and values, as opposed to defects in personal character and culture. From the tone of the replies, it’s pretty clear that many of the Dutch are not worthy of the charity you’ve demonstrated. By the way, Florence and Carla, there’s a difference between having some negative opinions and hating a country. And given how the Dutch are always boasting about their open and tolerant society, maybe you should consider showing a little respect for peoples’ opinions, rather than telling them to leave because you don’t like what they have to say. If this were my post, I’d have to add people like you to the list of things I hate about living here.

  8. Holy shit.

    All I can say about this garbage. Where the hell do you get the audacity to write about a culture that you (quite obviously) barely understand?? Where did you do your research??? Can’t find good products in the supermarket? People are yelling at each other? People don’t kiss or hold hands in public..? SUGAR IN EVERYTHING??? This is just a bunch of random accusations thrown together for more then obvious click-bait purposes. To hell with this.

  9. I love the way you say it, I don’t see why some people around found this insulting. Many of those have never being exposed to cultural adaptation/changes. I enjoyed it. It’s just acknowledging and pointing to the cultural differences and how it can become a struggle. I totally got your point. Take it from a Latina that LOVES the Netherlands and have found a home here after years of struggles.

  10. Wow Soreh, you have guts and lots of opinions. I am so glad that I have enjoyed many many years as an expat in different parts of the world without ever having to compare that life with my home country.

  11. Hahaha! That is nice)) #3, #4, #5 are totally match with my view. Paracetamol is a cure-all. Have you learn any other drugs at meed school?)))

  12. It’s funny because I’m pretty sure most of the negativity comes from dutch people. As a Latin living for over a year here I can second your article and 100% that all the expats I relate with would think the same.
    The one thing I think you are missing is micro-racism, in which almost every dutch falls out of ignorance .(let’s hope so). Exhibit A, the negative answers in this post.

  13. I am a Dutch woman, and i have to say that most of the things I’ve read in you blog, doesn’t remind me of the Netherlands.
    If i take a look in my circle of familie and friends, which is very big, no one is yelling. Every household is cooking with fresh products, everyone is always welcome to enjoy dinner aswell, they all love it when a foreigner try to learn Dutch. And they also don’t care about showing love in public. They love to meet up, but is has to come from both sides.
    I dont know what Dutch people you’ve met, but they are certainly not the typical Dutch people.
    Have a nice day 😉

  14. I agree with everything you’ve said. Especially that M-***kers are cold… in a bed) ha ha
    And, by the way, people from other countries bring variety in food to this country. Now you can find a huge selection of any food.

  15. I think it is a good article and you know what is the beauty of this article is that you are very DIRECT !! 🙂
    it is not an article which should be taken in wrong way and I can tell you that you are not the only one who experienced these things and perhaps if you find a way to connect with those people, You probably don’t give a damn about these things.

  16. hey Karina, ik ben het hartstikke met je eens ! ik ben ook nederlandse en woon nu in het buitenland, maar wij nederlanders zijn gewoon een speciaal volk, we zijn gewoon gewoon, direkt, zeggen wat we denken, wij zijn open, niet preuts en hebben temperament. ! idd, wij schreeuwen niet! ik hoor vd “buitenlanders” dat ze nederlanders goed volk vinden, ik hoor van iedereen positieve meningen. die amerikanen zijn anders als wij, en die denken dat ze hun land zelf hebben opgebouwd. groetjes uit Zwitserland

  17. I am Dutch and even though I did feel a little attacked when I first read the article, I now think of it as feedback and an article that was not meant to be triggering. I do think that some of the things you listed are purely subjective and reflect some of the people you have met rather than the whole Dutch population. For example, my family loves to cook and uses a lot of spices and fresh products and so do my neighbors and some of my friends. And also, I hug all my family members, (old) friends and other people I (sort of) know every time I see them (of course not atm, because of corona).

    The thing that does still bother me is the generalization and exaggeration in some parts. For example, of course there are people in the Netherlands that are cold towards others, but definitely not every one. Of course people sometimes eat bitterballen, but right now you make it sound like everyone eats bitterballen all the time and nothing else.

    I’m sure you meant no disrespect or hate towards the Dutch population and that this article was just meant to be read for fun. I still think it’s funny to see how other people experience the ‘Dutch way of living’ and Dutch people in general. I also did recognize myself in some of the other things you listed, like the sandwich obsession, the speaking english to people who are trying to learn dutch and the punctuality.

    And let’s be honest, I think almost everyone would feel a little attacked if they saw a post that listed things other countries/people hate about your culture/country.

  18. I’m Dutch but I lived abroad for 15 years in countries with an actual food culture, and I can fully relate to what you have written.

    Even for me as Dutch person it is extremely difficult to make new friends, having lost touch with most of my childhood friend. The food and lack of variety, indeed. In larger supermarkets there is more choice, but in cities the problem is of course that everything is Albert Heijn, and they have killed of most local competition.

    And since the Dutch don’t really value good food, they are not asking for more variety and better quality either. We are the largest exporter of food in the world, but we have also succeeded in producing it in a very efficient way, resulting in cheap, but low quality produce. From watery tomatoes to watery strawberries, the quality of everything in the Dutch shops is mediocre. The Dutch accepts is as they know nothing else and are not asking for better.

    On the other hand, how is the average American family eating? Lots and lots of processed sugary food filled with chemicals and additives that are banned here because of good reasons. You seem to compare the entire NL to the Wholefoods shopping segment of the US rather than the more regular Americans, who eat way more unhealthy processed,sugarry and pre-packaged food than we do.

    Regarding doctors/GPs. I get it, but somehow the system works. 9/10 of the people visiting a GP don’t have anything serious, the GP acts a gatekeeper keeping specialist available and affordable, and indeed there is the belief that painkillers are a last resort and a danger, rather than something to make profit off. That also means that if you do feel you need to see a specialist you need to be more Dutch and direct in your approach toward the doctor and demand it.

  19. I’m not even originally Dutch (though now I am)and lived in the Netherlands for 40 years. I have to say, Americans are not exactly liked in many countries due to their ignorance of others cultures and constant petty complaints. When m***fucking Americans travel they always want to bitch about others cultures. So what exactly is American cuisine? McDonalds? You guys hv no position to talk about others cuisine when you have the highest obesity rate in the world! Also, no PDA/holding hands? Which remote island do you live at? What’s for sure is The Dutch don’t annoyingly run up to strangers and try to hug or kiss them. That’s an American thing which most Europeans don’t like. Also, you’re complaining about some really petty crap. Like why would you care if Dutch go to work early, eat sandwiches or like hagelslag? How’s that even affecting or enriching your life? A few of your comments are true like punctuality but most of it is just stereotype garbage

  20. I am an Expat myself living in the Netherlands for almost years. Despite understanding parts of it, I found myself wondering if I am living in another country than you or maybe if I don’t live long enough in the Netherlands to find myself in your words.

    In the beginning I also found dutch people to be cold until I realized they are just being direct. Something that most definitely didn’t suit me in the beginning, but a trait that I learned to value. My boyfriends family and acquaintances (all Dutch) are very kind, lovely and also beside them, I always encountered Dutch people to be very open.

    Food-wise: I need to pay more attention as in the assortments of supermarket. Despite the much higher price levels, I find food very fresh and I cook with my friends all the time as well as if I visit friends’ families, there is always a fresh dish being served. Although, I often find food not spicy enough 😀

    Job-wise: I work full-time for a Multinational in Amsterdam and they insist that I don’t start before 9 and finish 5:30 the latest. I find that much easier than in my home country and very relaxed in terms of not working over time. Lunch time really is something holy and if you stay longer than 5, colleagues and even my manager always asked me what I am
    Still doing in the office.

    The micro-racism I did encounter though, which is very unfortunate but also not common!

    Overall, I believe that the Dutch people value if you try to adapt to their culture. They show huge appreciation if you speak or learn Dutch and just try to fit in. They are scared of losing their heritage and language, which I “kind of” understand or at least have sympathy with.

    So, I trielt hope you continue your love relationship with this beautiful country and that maybe, you find yourself mistaken with some of these points:)

  21. Dear Soreh,
    I am an expat living in NL for 10 years and I have to agree that getting used to the country was tough.
    But I feel that you have a lot of negative feelings about the country and your are generalizing your experiences to all Dutch people. I read in your bio that your bf is Dutch, how does he feel about it? Doesn’t this article hurt his feelings?
    I think you didn’t understand the Dutch culture yet. My view on the Dutch punctuality is that they respect each other’s time and this is very positive.
    Dutch typical culinary is not that rich, but that’s what Dutch brought elements from other countries, they cook very diverse at home and very healthy. Kids eat bell pepper and cucumber, raisins and oranges as snacks. Much healthier than American or Brazilian (my own country).
    To become friends with Dutch is hard because they already have their childhood circle of friends, but to get to know them try joint group sports or meetups.
    With regards to the yelling, I never saw a Dutch adult yelling (teenagers all the time, but I don’t count it). I am Brazilian and I had experience of being too loud with friends in restaurants and the Dutch people were completely annoyed by that, as this is not common to them.
    I hope you are able to process those feelings and start seeing those differences as cultural. You cannot expect to go to another country and find the exact same behavior from what your used back home. Give them a chance and allow yourself to emerge in the Dutch lifestyle. Good luck!

  22. I have to say I don’t agree! I have met so many nice Dutch people while staying here.

    We also have to keep in mind that as adults it is harder to meet friends in general. I volunteer with Dutch and other expats, and have had a really great experience. Because of covid we’ve only gotten together a few times, but I have met some really sweet Dutch people. Maybe try volunteering?

    I’m also not a huge fan of the supermarkets (mostly because I don’t like all the plastic on the veggies) so I mostly shop at markets or we have a Moroccan shop here that has different ingredients and veggies/fruit.

    Lol don’t shop where you don’t like to shop. Don’t hang out with people you get bad vibes from (like in America) and see different doctors. Try getting a different perspective.

  23. Hi there Soreh! I’m an expat recently arrived in the Netherlands and I must say that while I found your post interesting to read, it didn’t click with my experience of the Netherlands so far.
    We’ve been here two months and met some super friendly Dutch people (our neighbors) and felt integrated from the get go. Granted, we were introduced by our landlords who use to live here, and it definitely helped, but I think it’s also about the attitude – as a foreigner, I feel it’s on me to make the most of the effort. In the everyday interactions, I do agree that the tone is rough and it takes some getting used to. But they’re not yelling at each other constantly from what I’ve seen!
    Regarding the food, in Europe it’s normal to buy your produce or other delicacies at the market or in small businesses!! That’s where the best products are. There’s a lot of really, really good products here if you take the time to dig around. And I’m French, so trust me when I say I’m rather picky when it comes to food.
    That being said, I find some reactions here quite extreme – it’s very clear that you don’t hate it here, and you can love a country and still find some flaws to it. France is being trashed all the time around the internet and thank goodness I don’t take it personally… actually it’s sometimes very funny and accurate!!

  24. Hi Soreh, it’s a triggering headline for sure. I am guessing a lot of people don’t read some of the finer details in your post before they get offended or all freaked out. While I can totally relate to some of the things you say – what’s with all the bread and why do you speak to me in English when you say I need to practice my Dutch – I have to wonder where you live. Admittedly, I have been living in the Netherlands for 12 years now (AND LOVE IT), so I have had the time to develop friendships with locals (and non-natives too), so maybe I can’t compare myself to you. I suspect living in a larger city (or a small village), it might be harder to make the connections. Also, I made a lot of friends when my kids were in preschool and primary school here – many of these friendships continue now that my kids are in high school, so it can be an important outlet, especially if you’re arranging play dates etc. I also live in a small town in a neighbourhood with a tight community (and a lot of kids that were in and out of everyone’s houses all the time…there’s that kid connection again 🙂 ). Cultural adjustment is not always easy and I’ve had my fair share of ‘what’s with the Dutch doing x, y and z’ venting sessions with non-natives, (everyone needs a bitching buddy no matter where you live or where you come from, right?) but eventually I move on. The Dutch medical system requires some getting used to, but you’re also your own advocate and that’s important to remember. I think everyone has or knows someone who’s had a medical horror story experience, even living in other developed countries; even you pointed out that America is the one with the opioid crisis. It’s frustrating to deal with the gatekeepers when you’re trying to make an appointment to see your local doctor, but once you know how to navigate that, Bob’s your uncle. As for cooking, I consider myself a foodie, and some of the best home-cooked meals I have ever had have been in the Netherlands. My neighbour makes some of the best desserts I have ever tasted (and I have tried a lot in many years of travelling and living in different places) and he’s an excellent cook (vegetarian, and his repertoire is amazing), and the mouthwatering aromas that come out of people’s houses ahead of dinner time when walking through our neighbourhood are second to none. It does sound like you mostly loving it here. After all, you have a Dutch partner, so you certainly like some things about the Dutch. Living in a place where things happen that seem inexplicable or unrelatable can be frustrating, but it’s possible to find your way here. Some stuff about life here still drive me crazy, but I now I have peeps that I lean on when I’m going through a rough patch. Mostly I embrace that wise Dutch sentiment ‘Het komt goed.’

  25. I think people who haven’t lived in another country before just don’t understand that you can love a place but also just have things you really really dislike 😂 the coldness thing I really understand and had to adjust to! I’m South African and we’re a very ‘warm’ people.

  26. The dutch don’t like the arrogant and exaggerating americans, so that is why you have had all those experiences. Ofcourse all you have written is very far from reality and totally bull….

  27. As an expat living in the Netherlands for 4 years now, I can relate with most of the points and other expats I know, I am sure will relate too. Coming from Latin America, the hardest things for me have been making friends and the food. I found dutch people very gentle and helpful, but when it comes to having a real friendship is reaaaally hard.
    Regarding the food, I also don’t like having a sandwich every day. Sometimes I just want a warm lunch and in some places is really difficult to find. I think that’s why I started cooking more.
    What I totally agree with you is the terrible medical care here. At least the general practitioners are really bad. There is no preventive care and if you don’t get mad or show tests from your country they don’t send you to a specialist. My experience with the huisarts hasn’t been the best. I have had several urinary infections and they NEVER did an urine culture to know the reason. Also, once my right eye was really red and when I went to the huisarts, he started searching the symptoms lin a medical google, to know what I got. And didn’t even get it right. I know it because a week later I went to my country and did all exams there and the diagnosis was something else.
    I don’t know why many people got hurt with your post. The Netherlands is a great country to live, but off course not everything is perfect.

  28. I lived in the Netherlands for 4 years. Amazing country and a place that at times felt more like home than my home country. But lets be honest, all these points are true. I mean, I don’t get why everyone in the comments is so offended and tells her to leave (that’s ridiculous). Every country has pros and cons. Pointing out the cons doesn’t make her a bad person, this is just how many expats experience the country.

  29. Haha..Indeed a funny post. Yelling people in the Netherlands? Make Aaliyah and come live here in Israel and you will understand what yelling is… Same counts for: making friends and way , way longer workdays. Not to speak about the doctors that will let you diagnose yourself unless paying 250eu for a private consult. Enjoy living in nice and quiet NL and stop complaining like an Ashkenazi jew.

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